tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post4625275195464766139..comments2024-03-29T06:10:21.932-04:00Comments on Quiltville's Quips & Snips!!: Is it Real or Repro??Bonnie K. Hunterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16377635115790685301noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-10454051818883935662021-05-02T14:34:18.871-04:002021-05-02T14:34:18.871-04:00Sadly I bought one thinking it was an original mod...Sadly I bought one thinking it was an original model. Does not sew right and does not do a right embroidery the reason for I did buy it.olgagisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06637311909873635918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-63481243626561068702020-06-09T13:45:07.992-04:002020-06-09T13:45:07.992-04:00I am pretty sure I got a machine just like yours! ...I am pretty sure I got a machine just like yours! Does it have some illegible numbers stamped and the front under the machine? I have a manual that looks like yours but it is missing the first few pages. Thank you for the information. I am kinda bummed now because I didn't even know that reproductions existed for sewing machines but it is a learning process and I have learned a lot by researching. BriezeySoCalGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05565770954606124494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-89860377469719970112019-12-19T04:29:19.367-05:002019-12-19T04:29:19.367-05:00I was fortunate to find a one owner Singer 66 red ...I was fortunate to find a one owner Singer 66 red eye in the cabinet for 40 dollars. There was damage to an iron leg of all things, but have now found a sad cabinet with good legs and good drawers. going to do some shuffling and have a great working machine in a great cabinet.<br />GamersClosetMamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02669339246728757767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-24593750299972693832017-09-27T06:01:55.759-04:002017-09-27T06:01:55.759-04:00Garland, Texas. Chris Weinerx
I studied your blog ...Garland, Texas. Chris Weinerx<br />I studied your blog before I bought what I thought was probably a repo at an antique mall. A woman just wanted 169 dollars for the machine and cabinet. I looked for the more obvious signs of a repo and did not find any. I did however find the manufacturing number on the front that I ran through Singers database I found through Google and I was so excited to find that my machine was made in 1919 to 1920. Thank you so much for your information it helped me immensely as I shopped for my treasure. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17615559492855606570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-60347659341443415322016-09-11T01:42:09.008-04:002016-09-11T01:42:09.008-04:00Well I too bought tonight a reproduction hand cran...Well I too bought tonight a reproduction hand crank, not even knowing they made replicas in the 1970s. I paid $80 and feel foolish, should of paid more attention the plastic knob and "Singer Sewing Machine Company" on top. Tomorrow I will try it out and at least I have a hand crank if power goes out. I feel in good company if Bonnie also had similar experience...Live and Learn!<br />Cindy Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15384253697129807911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-72683279933160407752015-07-06T11:18:32.150-04:002015-07-06T11:18:32.150-04:00Great article - I came across this today (two year...Great article - I came across this today (two years after your post, thank goodness for Google search!) having just been offered a this machine by a colleague at work. My warning signals were the cabinet - in pretty good condition in a reddish/orange wood colour, (I only have photos and can't see inside the drawers but I thought that perhaps it was an older machine in a new cabinet). The serial number plate was not in the usual place (in fact, it cannot be found), there was a plastic dial on the bed of the machine and the 'Sphinx' decals did not look like the ones on the Singer site. Oh, one other thing is that the top of the machine says 'Singer Sewing Company' rather than 'Singer Manufacturing Company' which is another indication that it is a reproductions:<br /><br />"There were repos made of the model 15, which also used the Sphinx decals, in the 1980s/90s after Singer was broken up and sold off in 1987. A Chinese company grabbed rights to the name and started pumping out repros, but only of the model 15. They're easy to spot: The decals read 'The Singer Sewing Machine Company' instead of 'The Singer Manufacturing Company' (as Singer had changed names in the 1960s, and the company had bought rights to the new name).<br /><br />Read more: http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=271633.0;all#ixzz3f7nhuhpT"<br /><br />Such a shame. I have two original vintage treadle machines, so a third would have been lovely - but I am not sure if I want a reproduction :( twotoasthttp://spottydogsocialclub.blogspot.ca/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-41791669854540728342013-02-24T03:23:09.113-05:002013-02-24T03:23:09.113-05:00Hi Bonnie,
Great post! I, too, purchased one of th...Hi Bonnie,<br />Great post! I, too, purchased one of these "vintage reproduction singer treadles" that was made in China. Yes, the cabinet is very poor quality construction. Mine actually popped the staples to the left side piece and drawers! I will need to re-tack them. I also noticed the decals are a bit more garish in color than the original USA antiques. The entire size of the machine irons seems a bit smaller, in general, but may be perfect for a petite Oriental to drive. (Which was the case for my machine.) On a positive note, it was easier to load in my car and move by myself than my other treadles and it does run smoothly! Still, I could easily let it go to an interested party and not miss her as I have another Phoenix and Papyrus treadle in the garage waiting to be cleaned up and loved. <br />Cheers,<br />Cathy vJ in MA<br />mvjess@yahoo.comAlwayskeptintaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03927520795719195241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-53801894372638714442013-02-23T23:38:40.079-05:002013-02-23T23:38:40.079-05:00There are a lot of Repro Singer handcranks in Vanu...There are a lot of Repro Singer handcranks in Vanuatu. They are made in China and the people there use them because a lot of them don't have electricity. I guess they have handcranks rather than treadles because of shipping costs and accessibility to land. Bit hard to put a treadle from a ships to a dingy and then to land. These Chinese machines are VERY poor quality and never seem to sew well and are difficult to fix. Some women have a genuine OLD singer handcrank with the serial number. They are treasured and are known for sewing much better than the repros.sandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04208231913623029597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-27043208644572637142013-02-23T22:36:47.876-05:002013-02-23T22:36:47.876-05:00If there is anything I don't want my machine ...If there is anything I don't want my machine to say is "made in China" :( It's just not right to find it on a featherweight, no matter what year it is produced!Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10791980394898126871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-91774220090436872352013-02-23T19:51:22.150-05:002013-02-23T19:51:22.150-05:00I faintly remember Fingerhut or Montgomery Wards, ...I faintly remember Fingerhut or Montgomery Wards, selling the repro Singer treadles. Might have been both places selling them. KQ Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13100001813595381733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-22307118114141280042013-02-23T19:48:04.051-05:002013-02-23T19:48:04.051-05:00What a bummer! I have a Singer Sphinx treadle tha...What a bummer! I have a Singer Sphinx treadle that I bought at an antiques mall in Newport Beach, CA in 1990. I paid about $350 for the machine and oak cabinet. After I saw yours, I looked mine over real good! The oval trademark plate on the front of my machine looks like it's copper. From my serial number, I think it's a 1927. My decals are worn in places, so it was well loved--and still is!!! Thank you for filling us in on these sort of things. I would never have guessed China was making Singer treadle copies.<br />JudyJudymchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155289055650842847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-54737871261433494822013-02-23T18:30:56.358-05:002013-02-23T18:30:56.358-05:00I would think so. I worked for Singer 20-odd years...I would think so. I worked for Singer 20-odd years ago, and they were making treadles then for sale in parts of the world with unreliable electricity. Picture instructions would mean you didn't need to translate into multiple languages (eg Ikea instructions), or would be good for people who couldn't read.<br />Treadle machines are still widely used - I watched a man doing amazing fee-motion embroidery work on one in India a couple of years ago.Vireyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16464838238295059335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-41546164061671997952013-02-23T18:07:37.737-05:002013-02-23T18:07:37.737-05:00I was thinking the same with about the Amish... We...I was thinking the same with about the Amish... We lived near a community in Upstate NY , near Canada in early 80's. They had a store and daddy went there to buy things. Supply and demand. THey don't care, so long as it keeps it's integrity in a good basic machine. They USE them and as someone else said, no power. So, they'd be happy with such. Very happy. Would serve them for a lifetime. Maybe for a new bride. Sandra Hendersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369992819437905498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-22095678549625418292013-02-23T18:00:36.072-05:002013-02-23T18:00:36.072-05:00I have seen new treadle machines at Lehman's H...I have seen new treadle machines at Lehman's Hardware in Kidron, Ohio. An Amish area. The one in their catalog now is a more modern looking machine with zigzag stitching but does have a treadle base.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01816001950084090576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-18518343971961286142013-02-23T17:58:20.169-05:002013-02-23T17:58:20.169-05:00Very interesting... My guess is with the year it w...Very interesting... My guess is with the year it was made, the Bicentennial, such demand for these caused some to be reproduced. I remember that resurgence in quilting in the 70s'.... I remember wearing the "Little House on the Prairie " type bonnets and frocks. I think it was in 4-H that we made them and had a float in the parade. Everything OLD was IN. My mother began to pick up quilting from my great grandmother... She wen to town on Sunbonnet Sue quilts!~ wow!~ She sold them at a flower shop (florist) for $100 a piece for baby sized ones and she marked them up from there. That was in the 70's!!!~! THere was supply and demand and I guess the economy was good. Then Jimmy Carter came on boards... lol As long as it works well, I think you still got a great deal. Nice to know and very interesting. Sandra Hendersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369992819437905498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-77793505766304678562013-02-23T17:51:21.010-05:002013-02-23T17:51:21.010-05:00Its nice to know repro's are out there but jus...Its nice to know repro's are out there but just becuase it is a repro does not mean it is not valuable too. Sometimes more so. In 1978 Singer made a repro #20 toy machine. That machine is actually worth 3 times an original 20 made in the 20's! Those repros are very limited in quanity. Enjoy your newer old machine, you got a deal.debgiggleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10365774071301973957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-90585688049097069802013-02-23T17:07:47.819-05:002013-02-23T17:07:47.819-05:00It is the same thing when you collect anything---y...It is the same thing when you collect anything---you have to get your information as you find things. It is a pretty machine and a reasonable price and actually sews. I can show you a few quilt tops that I thought were antique until I learned better. That's why it is such a thrill to find a great piece when you know all the facts about it. Thanks for giving us this info. My ex-sister-in-law sold my mom's original Pfaff machine at a garage sale with out asking permission. It was the best machine for straight out piecing I have ever sewn on. Live and learn. Judy Dietrichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03310395493132902215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-52752340663877826292013-02-23T17:01:32.661-05:002013-02-23T17:01:32.661-05:00$75 seems reasonable for a very good condition mac...$75 seems reasonable for a very good condition machine that sews very well. You might find this interesting, they called the 15CH a "vintage reproduction"; look like originals, but poor reputation and noisy compared to original.<br />http://www.oocities.org/heartland/plains/3081/singer.html<br />Elaine Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14605111489532551743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-13644592326224327942013-02-23T16:37:49.862-05:002013-02-23T16:37:49.862-05:00BONNIE-I think vintage is 50 years and older--but ...BONNIE-I think vintage is 50 years and older--but dont quote me on that..:-) I didnt know Singer had gone to China back then--Singer needs to get back over here :-)WIPPYSPLACEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17122864854148750023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-81861122168931022212013-02-23T16:35:28.158-05:002013-02-23T16:35:28.158-05:00ps-Carole Sullivan here :-)ps-Carole Sullivan here :-)WIPPYSPLACEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17122864854148750023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-46078528985480702972013-02-23T16:34:17.951-05:002013-02-23T16:34:17.951-05:00hahahaha--good thing I was going though all posts-...hahahaha--good thing I was going though all posts--I was about to post the very same thing.. WIPPYSPLACEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17122864854148750023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-13361000569887451992013-02-23T16:01:43.253-05:002013-02-23T16:01:43.253-05:00Great post Bonnie! This will help a lot of folks ...Great post Bonnie! This will help a lot of folks out while looking for treadles. The give away is the knob (usually black or silver) located by the pillar on the bed of the machine. It drops the feed dogs; original Singer Model 15 did NOT have this feature. While reading along in my Sewing Machine Enclyclopedia I found this statement: "The Singer Model 15 was designed in 1879 and introduced in 1881. It has been in production somewhere in the world to this day!" That makes it a great machine to collect and use because you can still get parts. I'm blessed to have five; 3 Singer originals, one Royal (badged machine for a department store), and my repro I found in December 2012 thanks to Bonnie's love of Japanese machines.Allison in Planohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05771100777200593936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-36564996313013143222013-02-23T15:37:24.520-05:002013-02-23T15:37:24.520-05:00Thanks for posting this. I didn't even know th...Thanks for posting this. I didn't even know they made reproductions of the treadles!Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18379439921083262796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-41923945950766054942013-02-23T15:18:35.000-05:002013-02-23T15:18:35.000-05:00your floor was dirty????your floor was dirty????Carolyn Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16591809412054783126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13569819.post-13368176160763576612013-02-23T14:41:03.697-05:002013-02-23T14:41:03.697-05:00A side note, when I started to try to learn how to...A side note, when I started to try to learn how to operate my vintage treadle I went shopping for a new belt. During the search I learned that treadle machines are still being produced and used in parts of the world that have unreliable electricity. The place that stands out in my recollection is India. I decided this was a positive thing for users of vintage machines as it encourages folks to manufacture things like belts for vintage machines. I wonder if your 1973 model was intended for such a place.... felicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01948533319485002220noreply@blogger.com